CBSE and TNEA

The most pondered question asked when a CBSE student applies for a BE at Anna university is

' Is there any preference given to CBSE students '

Well the answer is NO ...

Even though the University claims that it neutralizes the marks, theoretically it is negligible.

Neutralizing/ normalisation of marks is that the highest of all the boards are taken and marks neutralized  Say if the highest in Maths in CBSE is 99 and State is 100 then 1 mark is neutralized for CBSE students. But even if there is one student who has attained a centum in CBSE then it stands equal. The irony here is that there would be a 100 students with cent um in State board but just two in CBSE. 

Let's take the case of CBSE topper last year (2012), he scored centum in Maths and Physics and 97 in Chemistry. Think 98% was the highest in Chemistry. Hence the neutralism mark was 1/200 were 100(Maths)+50(Phy)+49(Chem)- 199/200 for CBSE and 200/200 for state.

But since the topper itself had a 1 mark difference he would have jumped to a 0.5, if the TNEA had been fair. But its rarely done. Moreover one can track only when he is a topper, what about the rest ?

SASTRA University is said to admit students through fair neutralization. They display the registered number along with marks at the time of counselling and one can claim if there is any discrepancies.

Its just the way the Education System works...

Good Luck and Best Wishes in your Admissions....

CBSE students Can apply for admissions into Anna University withoutresults

Firstly I must advice the CBSE students that if you are applying through single window counselling being from open quota then you can expect to find your rank way below the list.

By the time the seats at CEG, MIT , PSG and few more good colleges within the top 10 of Tamil Nadu may be coming to an end. Remember there are a large number of seats for the BC and other quotas.

As I have mentioned in my earlier blog on CBSE students tentative rank list last year, TNEA Stats, you may find that even the topper may not get a seat if his choice at CEG which gets filled up first. 

This year with the tentative dates for CBSE results yet to be announced the TNEA has already scheduled to close down their submission of application forms on the 20th May. The Tamil Nadu State results will be announced on 9th May. 

The Anna University has said today that the CBSE students can send their application with all supporting documents leaving the marks column blank on or before 20th May. It has said that the students can send the mark sheet separately to The Secretary TNEA Chennai-25 after the release of results. And has also said that they will give enough time for the submission but will stick to their schedule of assigning random number in 5th June and publishing the rank list on June 12th...

Good luck and best wishes....

TNEA does it again

The war between CBSE and Anna university continues every year. Anna university has announced that it will issue application forms from 4 th May 2013 and the last date of submission is 20th May '13.
Whereas CBSE announces its result only during the 3rd or 4th week of May.
In 2010 it was declared in 21st May
In 2011 it was on 23rd May and
In 2012 it was on 28rh May.
This year too we can expect the results to be around the same time or later.
The students once again have to run around to attach their online mark results and submit before the date, which is impossible. More so for the students from other districts of TN.
Wonder why this happens year after year?
Is it cause of miscommunication between AU and the CBSE or is it that AU discourages CBSE students applying for admission in their state colleges (affiliated to Anna University) which has almost 50000 seats going vacant every year.....

Heard that the Tamil Nadu State 12th board results are to be published on 10th. Enough time to submit with mark sheets even from remote corners if the state...

The Ever Changing CBSE

It is surprising how the education system of CBSE is constantly changing.

Let's have a brief overlook of the changes which happened over the last 5 yrs.

2007 HOTS was introduced. 20% of the questions were based on higher order thinking skills of the student.
2008 - 20 marks of science paper for 10th was objective .
2009 - The marking system was to be changed to grades.
2010 - Grades were given instead of marks for the 10th board exams.
2011 - 10 board exams became optional and CCE was introduced .
2012 - The education board wanted to have a single board for all boards across the country, which luckily did not happen. Else it would have been a chaos.
2013 - The CBSE wants to implement open book system for a certain percentage in few subjects from 9 to 12 exams from 2014....
It does not mean that the student can take the book into the hall, but a portion of the syllabus will be marked and the questions would be definitely asked from those notes.

With the ever changing system of evaluating the students at crucial phase of their higher education .. Parents and students are left in a dilemma every year.

When ever some one asks me now, whether it is wise to change the child to a CBSE board to avoid the rote learning done in state schools ... My answer to them is that at least it is constant and does not confuse the child preparing for the exam. Most importantly the teachers who plan their lesson plan at least know what is expected out from them in state schools than attending seminars and workshops during the academic year to update themselves on the new system of evaluation.


Long live Central Board of education and hope they clear their confusion of how
they want the student to be evaluated... On whole it's very vague whether they want bright students who can solve 20% of HOTS questions or want mediocre to attain 20% through rote learning from the open book method. Maybe they want them to be both to attain a 100% ....

The TNEA Stats

With the results of all the board been declared the below table is  a summary of what the students of different boards can analyse when seeking admission into colleges through the single window counselling of the state counselling board for admissions into Anna University colleges in Tamil Nadu Tamilnadu Engineering Cut-off Mark Trend Analysis 2005 - 2012 Mat. Phy. Che. (MPC) Cut-off marks Difference in 1 Mark 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010 2011 2012 200 192 3 22 36 44 31 120 35 199-199.25 1325 95 282 631 707 578 1042 688 198 - 198.25 1815 235 436 907 1117 1045 1522 1198 197 - 197.25 1915 336 585 1117 1374 1216 1547 1596 196 - 196.25 1828 446 700 1133 1417 1392 1553 1683 195 - 195.25 1760 520 798 1166 1496 1390 1624 1726 195 - 200 8835 1635 2823 4990 6155 5652 7408 6926

This years CBSE topper Sanjay Ganapathy of Bhavans School, Chennai secured centum in Mathematics and Physics, 97 in Chemistry, 98 in computer Science and 95 in English which makes his cutoff at 198.5/200 for the Tamil Nadu Engineering counselling, but as he has cleared the IITJEE with a rank of 194 prefers to join IIT M. A wise decision indeed as he would be getting a rank of 900-1000 in the TNEA rank list.

More over the state counselling is tentatively to commence on the 13 July'12 this year and by which time the NITs , deemed colleges and IITs would have finished their counselling. This clearly states that the Tamil Nadu state prefers the students who were left behind in the race from CBSE boards to seek admission in their colleges.
The state has about 550 odd colleges for BE/B Tech and every year thousands of seats remain vacant. Last year about 40000 seats were unoccupied and this year it is estimated that about 25000 seats will go vacant. Wonder why the state is yielding to quantity over quality in graduating engineers ? instead would'nt it be wiser to close down a few colleges and provide quality professionals.. to our country.

CBSE Students Lag Behind In Tamil Nadu Counselling

A state which was known as the hub for producing brilliant engineers has gifted few of its brilliant students to its neighboring states towards their graduation in the field of engineering. This section of my blog will post links and my views on the downfall of the education system  in Tamil Nadu. Comments and opinions on this post is most welcome.

With both political parties not favoring the common entrance exam in the state, stating its reason as setting an equal platform for the students both in rural and urban areas, has resulted in discriminating the CBSE and ICSE students from entering the arena of Anna University Colleges. The government fails to note that option for these students who have selected the different boards other than the state board is mainly due to their parents serving in Central Government jobs and have to keep up with the common syllabus when being transferred from one place to the other, sometimes even in the midst of the academic sessions. Apart from the disrupted school years due to transfers of their parents these students have to stoop to the only option of seeking admissions in the Deemed colleges as most of them have an entrance exam which these children clear comfortably or  pay hefty amount for management seats in the state Pvt colleges, if they wish to pursue their education in Tamil Nadu. The only advantage they face is to have an edge in the competitive exams of IITJEE and AIEEE as they are more well versed with the concepts and fundamentals of the subjects and do well in these exams. Sad to say that a child clearing these competitive exams with a good rank finds her/his name at the bottom of the list at the State's single window counselling system  and is offered a college without reputed status in some remote corner of the state. Few of these students move to other states competing in their entrances and find a seat in a good college and graduate as engineers from the  neighboring states.

http://www.thehindu.com/news/cities/chennai/article3391295.ece