Admissions VIT '13

Below is a snap shot of the counselling status of VIT.

As mentioned in my earlier blog on admissions to deemed universities, the number of seats allotted for the core branches are in large numbers. Most of these seats fall vacant as many students who are yet to receive the rank list for IIT main ( the remaining from the 1.5 lakh who cleared for advanced), and those who are awaiting board results of CBSE may be opting for NITs and other colleges based on the rank list, or for other colleges which admit through board results (which are yet to be announced) surrender this seat when they get admissions into the other colleges.

This institution clearly announces during counselling, that the vacant seats go as management seats (when falling vacant due to surrendering of seats later on) and it does not have a management quota.. Whereas SRM  University has a second counselling if and when the seats are either not filled or falling vacant due to surrendering of seats later on. 

But both these colleges announce a large number of scholarship for the students at the time of counselling based on the rank list which are wasted by the children surrendering the seats when they move to other colleges. 

Below is the snap shot of the scholarship awarded by the institute. This year 5 out of top 10 rank holders were from Chaitanya academy, Andhra Pradesh.

As most of those following the rank list if IIT would have noted that this academy excels in IIT coaching. Hence it's not difficult to understand that even though the child attends the counselling he is not going to pursue the education here when he clears at IIT or NIT. 

Similarly a very small percentage of the 1000 rank holders will continue to study at VIT. 

If the institute genuinely favours scholarship it should grant them to deserving students in the academic year.

It also goes on to state that the district toppers of the state who have studied in Govt schools in rural areas too would be given a 100% scholarship. Most of these toppers of Tamil Nadu are the 200/200 in the TNEA cutoff and would prefer CEG or PSG were the fees is nominal. Moreover the number of such students would once again be very rare. 

Hence a word of advice, as these institutions strongly deal in advertising, its always better to go for counselling with an open mind.

Status Of Deemed Colleges in India

Following is a copy of the article which featured in Times of India journal-

This article is sure to throw some light about the deemed universities which advertise as AICTE , grade A ...

Eight institutions ‘pass’ deemed university test
Akshaya Mukul, TNN Apr 8, 2013, 02.19AM IST


Tags:
Tandon Committee|Supreme Court|deemed university test

(Universities affected…)
NEW DELHI: Even as the Supreme Court is hearing the deemed university case, eight of the 44 found deficient on certain counts have made it to the 'deemed university' list after rectifying the faults pointed out by the Tandon committee in 2009.

In its comprehensive review of 126 deemed universities, the Tandon committee had found only 38 (group A) fit to qualify as deemed universities while 44 (group B) were found deficient in some parameters that needed to be rectified. Another 44, put in group C, were found totally unfit to be deemed universities. The affected universities went to the Supreme Court and the matter is being heard.

Meanwhile, eight group B universities have made it to the A list. This includes Vellore Institute of Technology, Vellore; SRM University, Chennai; NITTE, Mangalore; KLE, Belgaum; Bharati Vidyapeeth, Pune; HBNI (Homi Bhabha), Mumbai; Sathyabama University, Chennai; and Avinashilingam Institute of Higher Education for Women & Home Sciences, Coimbatore.

The review committee made an assessment of progress made by these universities and found that substantial improvements were made, be it conforming to UGC guidelines, governance, quality and innovations in teaching, research output, faculty resources, doctoral and other research degree programmes and admission process and award of degrees.

It is not that these universities came up with flying colours on all parameters but marked improvement was noted in key parameters. The minimum score needed for category A status is 30 and all eight of them scored 31.

In case of Vellore Institute, it was found there was noticeable change in number of faculty with PhD degrees. Also a perceptible improvement in research output had taken place. Similarly, in case of SRM University, research output had increased as well as the number of students registered for PhD.

The key parameter was governance of these universities as it was found that most of them were run by family members of promoters. The review committee did not comment on governance aspect of most of the deemed universities, except Bharati Vidyapeeth where it found a real change in the administrative structure.

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In Tamil Nadu, Sastra university had obtained Grade A status in 2009 and 16 colleges of Tamil Nadu were given 3 years to upgrade themselves. VIT had a score of 25, SRM had scored 21 and Satyabama 24 as per 2009 and all three have secured 31 clearing the expected score of 30.

I'm sure this article will solve the dilemma about the status of deemed universities. Tandon committee reviews the deemed status of up-gradation every 3 years and the universities have to constantly keep upto to the recommended criteria specified. Currently there are only few Grade A meaning a college of approved deemed status in Tamil Nadu-

SASTRA university

Amrita University

VIT

SRM

Satyabama University

Merits and Demerits Of Deemed Colleges

Like many parents, I too am pretty confused about admissions into deemed colleges. The main criteria  while choosing a good college  (apart from recognition by the UGC/AICTE)... are

1. Faculty

2. Infrastructure

3. Placements,
and I found all these in some of the deemed colleges in Tamil Nadu.

But it made me wonder .. why then do parents prefer to admit their children in Anna Univ Recognized college rather than the deemed colleges,  by paying  hefty one time capitation for management seats, when most of the state colleges lack the basic infrastructure, like a good library to a decent auditorium?...

The answer I got from many was "that the students from the deemed colleges when applying for higher education abroad are at a disadvantage over the Anna Univ colleges."

But, these deemed colleges are accredited by ABET USA which the other colleges lack ... and I have met a few alumni/students from these deemed colleges who have gone abroad for their masters degree, few of them are pursuing a Semester Abroad Program in their last year of their B Tech degree.

With all these questions pondering.. I approached a friend who works as an educational counsellor with my question

 " What is the difference between deemed and the other state recognized colleges?"

Her answer was..

1. The deemed colleges follow a method of Grade Point System using credits in their semester for assessing  students , whereas the state colleges follow the examination pattern, with the end semester paper from the Anna University.

2. The student needs to perform well in all the fields, from co curricular activity to project works to cycle tests and semester exams where the credits are marked accordingly and a final GP is arrived at the end of the semester. Whereas in state colleges only the end semester exam results are taken into consideration, which means the child need not participate in any activity, and just the scores in the examination is going to fetch him a good result.

3. When applying for higher education the colleges abroad assess the marks/credit equivalent  along with the GRE/GMAT scores. Hence to get a high credit in the deemed colleges the student has to be consistent throughout the semesters in all the activities of the college, whereas the state college student need not worry about all the co curricular activities and just be academic oriented.

4. When applying for the Class A colleges abroad the deemed colleges are not in the list of colleges in the world ranking, whereas  The Anna University stamped certificate holds a better  in these colleges though they too dont feature in the top colleges in the world. (IIT Bombay, Delhi is the only college ranked within the top 100 colleges in the world)
5. The student gets a BE Degree from a state college whereas the degree awarded to the deemed colleges is B Tech. 

This summed up to - the student has to attain a good rank in his GRE/GMAT scores as well as his marks from the state colleges when applying for the Class A colleges.

And I wondered-,whether the overall development or just securing marks was important in the long run for a student graduating as an engineer ?

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My friend just smiled.. 

so I asked her with much curiosity ..... in which college she would prefer admiting her son,

she smiled again and said ANNA UNIVERSITY COLLEGES.. "I would'nt want my son to loose out on the little chance if ever he wants and qualifies to pursue his education in Class A colleges abroad".

But even the students from IIT and NITs do not qualify for an admission from these colleges ? was my next query...and she smiled wider (which only confirmed that she indeed was a good counselor).

I am still confused.. 

the only option I had was to apply for all the colleges and see how my son fairs and leave the option open to select the college and branch he finds himself eligible in the end....

Deemed Colleges Vs NIT-Trichy

The link below by The Hindu discusses why Tamil Nadu state students do not obtain a seat in NIT- Trichy which holds 50% seats as state quota.
The main reason apart from the facts discussed in the article is the delay in announcing the results of AIEEE   leaving the students to join deemed universities over NIT in spite of qualifying with a decent score in the AIEEE. (for instance this year the deemed colleges ask the candidate to pay the full fees much before the NITs announce their counselling list, and a particulat college starts its academic session even before the date of NITs first counselling, which leaves many continuing in the deemed college as there is no refund of fee after the commencement of classes).

Dates Of Counselling By Deemed Colleges

VIT - 30000/ at the time of counselling ( 14th to 19th May) 10000/ non refundable
The remaining of 93000/ before 18th June
The college reopens on 4th of July (10000/ + special fee + admission fee non refundable within one month of commencement of classes)

SRM - 75000/ at the time of counselling ( 12th to 18th June) 1000/ non refundable
The rest 75000/ + special fee + admn fee  before 30th June

AMRITA -  30000/ to be paid at the time of counselling (4th June to 10th June) 1000/ non refundable
                  The rest to be paid within 10 days from the date of counselling.

ANNOUNCEMENT OF AIEEE RESULTS ON OR BEFORE 15th JUNE 2012
FIRST ROUND COUNSELLING - 28th June TO 2nd  July
SECOND ROUND                        - 6th  TO 10th July

The Hindu : Education : AIEEE: Tamil Nadu needs to shape up for better results